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Conspiracy Theory

Posted by picard578 on January 25, 2016

Source: Conspiracy Theory

13 Responses to “Conspiracy Theory”

  1. Duviel said

    I just see a black box.


  2. Duviel’s irritation partakes of the sort of venom practiced by those who have nothing to communicate, beyond expressing anger. The USA is only a minor part of Patrice Ayme’s considerations (as can be seen in the latest essay there, where the US is not mentioned at all). Patrice is one of these Americans who have travelled the world, right… Yet mostly lived in the US (I must confess).

    Accusing Patrice of not understanding “our” American culture is weird, yet reminiscent of those who claimed neither Obama, nor Ted Cruz, or even John McCain, were truly American! (Obama was accused of being born from a non-American father, Ted Cruz of being born in Canada, from a non-American father, and McCain, although son of a lineage of four star admirals, was indeed born in Panama. Ah, was not one of Trump’s parents Scottish?)

    Allegations that people are not American enough, reminds me of Hitler accusing (in “Mein Kampf”, 1925) the Jews of not being German enough. (It did not end well.)

    Sorry for the headaches, BTW. Real sorry. But it’s only natural: Patrice’s site is not just an American philosophy site, but has the pretention to be a World philosophy site. So Patrice could be accused of using the infliction of headaches as a new weapon of US supremacy. Real philosophy, like mathematics, is hard.


  3. I omitted an important point. Thanks for reproducing my essay, Picard! That’s very kind. The reason I write is to further the debate, so I appreciate, and it is soothing that some people find some value in what I write.


    • Duviel said

      “Young Americans are told vigorously, early on, that not only American Football, Hockey and other concussion sports, are excellent for their brains, but that “Conspiracy Theorists” are insane maniacs. This way, they are made gullible, and thus, defenseless. The bashed up brains (especially of the males) cannot figure it out. Whatever is going on. They may as well vote for Clinton. What could go worse”

      Until sometime around 2005 the mention that certain sports effect the brain was not even a part of common culture. It is now common knowledge that Football, Boxing, MMA, etc. are harmful to the brain. Of course, the sports leagues are investing a lot of money into countering this fact but its common knowledge that its very bad for you. Some (mostly from the poorest least educated parts of society) still choose to play the sports. But, the consequences are well known.

      At no time has the mention that sports are excellent for the brain, been a part of our culture. Sports have always been looked at as good for the body from the shoulders down but not for the brain. Now it is becoming common knowledge that some full-contact sports are not good even for the body.

      Participation in sports generally is declining in America (particularly among the upper middle class and the rich). Football and Boxing are pretty much extinct nowadays outside of the poorer neighborhoods. Basketball, Baseball, and yes European Football (Soccer here) are now the sports of choice. MMA participation was growing but, now most parents (and adults) prefer Jiu-Jitsu and/or Judo.

      Just a bit of insight on American sports culture. I know there are various types of cultures within Americas large expanses. And, personal experiences vary. Regardless, Patrice I don’t know how you could have lived in US for so long? Hard to believe from reading your posts.

      Honestly Patrice that’s as far as I went in reading this last post. One paragraph was enough for me to laugh and click X. I have read some of your posts in the past and I grew tired of your glorification of the Franks and un-informed criticism of American culture. At least from my American perspective. I would tolerate the obvious and/or underhanded slights if at the same time I was learning things I valued.

      Its your opinion and you are entitled to it. But, I am also entitled to mine and have the right to choose not to read your posts.

      I disagree with Picard and many of his contributors often. But,I find his opinions to be usually well informed and I have learned much from his blog.


      • Duviel said

        American Football is still the most popular sport to view here. What I meant was that its not played much anymore. Only in poor (mostly African-American) neighborhoods.

        If it were not for kids being bused in from poorer areas, most high schools would not be able to field a team anymore.


      • I gave a longer answer on sports alone. From a disagreement about the danger of say, hockey (where I had a family problem), you deduced I was… not American! Great. BTW, I love mom and apple pie, sorry to disappoint.

        Your conflation of the Franks and “American Culture” is neither here, nor there. The latter derives from the former. The Franks are much ignored in the usual study of history, but they actually “renovated” the Roman Empire (as they officially said). It’s impossible to understand where American culture and institutions come from without studying the Franks, because they transmitted, amplified and “renovated” the Roman state. The Capitol in Washington looks as it does, instead of looking like a pagoda, because of Rome, and Rome went through the Franks (including the all-important Roman and Salic laws, from which American Law descends).

        In 1066 CE, the Franks conquered England, and outlawed slavery there (20% of the population a census conducted by the Franks showed).

        Thinking is tiring, but it’s who we are…


  4. Duviel: Thanks for your answer. Sorry if I was rough. I usually to not flaunt nationhood. But, as an American, I spent most of my life in the USA. I also know two young Americans very close to me (very close family) who have been induced by their parents (family) to play hockey. One of them would get up at 5 am to become hockey champion or something. Then he would go to (private) school. I saw his interest in the world in general, and me in particular, deteriorate spectacularly. He became always dazed, with far away eyes. Looked like partial lobotomy.

    Both these boys have sisters of comparable age, and I noticed they stayed smart.

    The American sport scene, especially when connected to universities is, from my point of view, extremely corrupt (I attended or taught in, three famous US universities). Too much money.

    Another thing: American authorities are not cracking down on drugs in sports (as French authorities started to do in cycling long ago). Football players’ short lifespans is not just because of concussions…

    So this is a world problem: authorities say that, in the present Australian Open in tennis roughly half the top seeded male players are (said to) have engaged in unlawful cheating connected to betting. Adidas, the main sponsor of world athleticism, is pulling its support out (too much drugs and corruption, it says).

    I do not partake in many moods and mentalities or ideas popular in the USA, true. But the same aversion extends equally to other countries. Fact is I live here, and have lived here longer than the average American.

    The mark of true democracy is that “Think Different” rules happily. “Think Deeper” is part of it.

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    • Duviel said

      Please do not ever feel discouraged in continuing to write and express your opinion. I disagree with most of yours but we need many opinions, views, and ideas in order to forward our knowledge and improve our perspective.

      I do not deny the impact and role of the Franks Patrice. But, I do not think the Franks or French to be comparably of such high praise as you portray. Or, America to be so lowly.

      I am an American and I like my culture. I am also very defensive and protective when I feel attacked by those who dislike America.

      I do know that there is much to criticize about the USA. There is also much to praise. I just dont like when some choose to point out every fault and also add many others that are unearned (some really dont need much evidence. As long as its anti-American they will jump aboard). And, on the other hand find it very difficult to ever credit my country for the positive.

      I understand it comes with being so big and dominant in so many aspects. One hundred, two hundred years ago I’m sure the British & French received the same treatment outside of Britain and France.

      I am not accusing anyone because I have limited knowledge of anyone on this blog. But, there are many in America that are not American.

      It has nothing to do with race or ethnic roots, or maybe even birthplace. It has to do with one simple thing.

      Do you love your country? Do you want the best for your country? Is your loyalty to this country ahead of any other. Not ahead of everything. But, ahead of every other nation. Please understand, when I speak of a nation I speak of the nation, not the government.

      If the answer to these questions are yes then you are qualified to criticize. If the answer is no then I cant trust your critique. Your critique can be valuable but it must be filtered and analyzed because I cant trust it comes with best intentions.

      I would say the same applies to every nation on earth.

      I rarely criticize any nation or group. except when that criticism comes as necessary part of another argument.


      • Thanks for the answer, Duviel. The “Franks” and the “French” are two different concepts. The “Franks” are those through whom the Greco-Roman inheritance was transmitted to the West. They are as much, no less, forefathers of the British, Americans, or the French… Yes, Russia is another story (the Greco-Roman inheritance went through Constantinople there…. and even worse.)

        If Canada was better on a particular value (as it used to) than France, Britain, the USA, I would defend it… On that value. This is why I am often extolling Switzerland. Many people have several nationalities. And then there is European CITIZENSHIP. I have met New Yorkers who detested California, even criticizing the Californian accent, claiming it sounded like French, and making fun of me because I spoke “flat” according to them…

        One thing, though: I am never afraid of criticizing a group, including a nation, just because it’s not PC to do so.

        Nationalism can be good, or can be bad. If a nation adopts my values, I am all for it. As you say, in the end.

        Not being PC, and making the blood roil has the advantage of inciting to talk about difficult issues. For example if I say that I despise the Tibetan Superstition, it’s a good occasion, agreeing on that point with the Chinese Communists, to discuss what exactly what the Chinese Han are doing… occupying Tibet.



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